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Sutarufosu (9715213)

Title: Does Social justice have an image problem?

Reason: User Banned (1 Week): Inflammatory generalizations, peddling disinformation, and a history of concern trolling in contentious topics

In the real world? No. I don't think I've ever even heard the word "SJW" uttered by anyone outside of the internet. People doing activism or volunteer work are encouraged and accepted. In colleges and universities it's rough because people are still young and very headstrong. This inexperience shows but we will forgive it so long as things don't go to far. Some adults never grow out of that but at least they are few. On The Internet it's a completely different story. Hysteria runs rampant. Half truths. Misrepresentations. Accusations. Finding any kind of nuanced or reasonable conversation is increasingly difficult. People are determined to force their beliefs on others. You can see this plainly on Reset Era. In any given thread about Social Justice issues there are a small group of posters who will predictably show up to contribute only the same kind of one liners that are either completely dismissive, accusatory or inflammatory. You get to know the avatars and you come to understand that all they contribute is quick and sharp one or two line posts that have no substance. In my opinion these people are almost always simply arguing against nuance. Don't you dare try to understand and issue or try to weigh up different ideas. They'll be on you... "so you're saying..." Even just doing things like making a clumsy comparison can result in a ban. Or maybe making a not quite right analogy? Reported then maybe banned. There's basically a zero tolerance approach to any kind of comment that isn't 100% "correct" first time. If you wrote 10 paragraphs and even one sentence is a bit "off" then that's what will be pounced on and not just to say "I think you are a bit wrong there buddy" but to completely go all in and try to discredit the poster. Most people here are left leaning AND supportive of social justice causes and still for some it's just not good enough so you see a lot of in-fighting. In real life there has to be some give and take to actually get anywhere with anything political. If you want to gain allies etc you have to be approachable and likable and respectful. You can't flip out just because people don't 100% agree with you all of the time. Nobody wants to be around that. I had a more social justice minded friend on Twitter last year who was having an absolute meltdown because Laci Green was dating Chris Ray Gun. I never knew who these people were at the time but it turns out they are just (relatively young, I think) Youtubers. Who the hell is freaking out over 2 Youtubers, miles away in the USA, bumping uglies? Who the hell cares? You mix crazy tantrums like that in with the "SJW" stuff and it does all add up to an image problem. Whenever I see someone mentioning Nazis in threads on this site I just roll my eyes and I know for a fact I'm not the only one. Problem is you just don't know who you are dealing with online. In a thread about obesity a poster became really REALLY riled up about fat-shaming and was being rude and unreasonable with people explaining the health risks. Turns out the poster was 9 years old. I had to laugh. You've got grown adults arguing with 9 year olds over obesity. Again, in the real world am I really going to get into the "both sides" argument with a woke 10 year old? Probably not. A whiny brat with a bad attitude isn't going to turn me into an ally any time soon. Despite all of that I'd MUCH rather be publicly associated with say a Laurie Penny or an Anita Sarkeesian than to be associated with a Milo Yiannopolous or a Richard Spencer, so there IS that! I think they are all idiots but if we are talking about DANGEROUS idiots then I think the Right is a far more pressing concern.

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