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Title: Guardian: Sam Harris and Bill Maher are bigots

Reason: User Banned (Duration Pending): Rationalising racist arguments. Prior infractions.

Nope. Harris and Maher are just not towing the leftist line in strict conformity, they enjoy trashing extreme leftists, and have conversations/debates with conservatives. That is enough to get them on the hate list for a significant portion of the left even though 90% of public policy they support is Democrat/liberal. As far as their views on Islam, they criticize doctrine. Same as they criticize other religious doctrine. The bigot label is a 15 year old claim at this point and still hasn't stuck. SPLC tried painting Maajid Nawaz (Islamic friend of Harris/Maher who agrees with many of their claims) as an Islamophobic bigot too but then ended up apologizing to him and giving him a big payout for slander. As far as those making the "Harris thinks whites are genetically superior" line I encourage any of them to listen to the Ezra Klein/Harris debate. Both make legitimate points revolving around the race/IQ debate. Ezra thinks the history of slavery and discrimination has a strong systemic impact on IQ results. Harris thinks the data may or may not be impacted by slavery/discrimination at this point in time and that one should be able to argue for either side without being called a "bigot". Neither of them claim to make decisive, absolute claims or know for certain why racial IQ differences exist. To be clear, I'm not going to debate the details of this topic, I'm merely describing it to show its complexity, and that drive by posts about him being racist are just that: drive by posts.

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